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		<title>Stirring Up the Hornet&#8217;s Nest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 15:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[My last post has generated many interesting discussions (of course, those are happening by way of email or phone or IM, since many of you read but usually don&#8217;t post comments &#8230; no big deal; part of the fun of web 2.0 is that we can communicate however we choose). I&#8217;ve been in discussions with [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My <a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/08/23/an-un-truth-i-learned-from-the-church-and-what-ive-un-learned-about-it/" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight: bold">last post</span></a> has generated many interesting discussions (of course, those are happening by way of email or phone or IM, since many of you read but usually don&#8217;t post comments &#8230; no big deal; part of the fun of web 2.0 is that we can communicate however we choose).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been in discussions with like-minded folks and listened (or read) patiently while someone blasts my <strong>&#8220;radical&#8221; notions</strong>.</p>
<p>Having been an English (and Theatre Arts major) in school the first time around, I thought I&#8217;d put to use some of those history-of-the-English-language skills.</p>
<p>RADICAL: etymologically, the word &#8220;radical&#8221; comes from the Latin (radix) meaning &#8220;<strong>to the root</strong>.&#8221; Feel free to check me on this by clicking <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/radical" target="_blank">here</a>.  Looking at radical&#8217;s synonym visual family yields this:</p>
<p><img src="http://www.brianniece.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/radicalvisualthesaraus.gif" alt="radical_visual" /></p>
<p>From this visual it seems that a &#8220;radical&#8221; is someone who is <strong>revolutionary or extremist to the root </strong>about something in particular.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think the Christian faith, the Christ-follower is to be radical?  Shouldn&#8217;t we be engaged in <strong>life-long transformation to the root of all that we are</strong>?  Shouldn&#8217;t every aspect of human experience be under c<strong>onstant conversion to the very base of all we do</strong>?  Shouldn&#8217;t our core theme be <strong>radical discipleship</strong>?  It seems this is what Jesus often calls for, invites others into.  When Jesus says, &#8220;<strong>Come and see,</strong>&#8221; accepting that invitation means a <strong>life of change &#8230; <em>to the root</em></strong>.</p>
<p>So allow me to stir up the hornet&#8217;s nest some more &#8230;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s <strong>another un-truth I&#8217;ve learned from the church: the world is made up of two kingdoms (dualism)</strong>.</p>
<p>I learned from the church that we Christians should gather in the &#8220;church&#8221; building as often as possible so that we might <strong>escape the evils of the world</strong>, be discipled to be more <strong>unlike the world</strong>, and be equipped to go out and <strong>win the world </strong>for Christ.</p>
<p><strong>I don&#8217;t find that world-view with Jesus at all</strong>.  Our ancient spiritual ancestors from the pages of Hebrew scripture displayed a type of dualism.  They saw good and evil.  Sometimes they saw both good and evil coming from God (try to make that one fit in our postmodern orthopraxy!).   They felt &#8220;called apart&#8221; as a specially chosen people.</p>
<p>But Jesus fulfilled what they were progressively learning:  <strong>God is dreaming to reconcile all of creation to God&#8217;s self</strong>!</p>
<p>Grappling with this revelation causes us to stop looking at parts of the world as sacred and parts of the world as &#8230; well, the world.  <strong>All of it is God&#8217;s creation.  All of it is sacred.  All of it is being reconciled.</strong></p>
<p>The question for the church is: Are we engaging with <strong>God&#8217;s activity in reconciling </strong>all of creation?  Are we <strong>making disciples outside the church walls </strong>(into all the &#8220;world&#8221;)?  Do we really believe that <strong>God&#8217;s grace goes before us</strong> and that Christ&#8217;s Spirit is already at work everywhere?</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve unlearned about dualism is that Christ-followers should see all of creation as Jesus sees it.  This is called <em><strong>messianic</strong></em>.  And we see ourselves in this creation as ambassadors of and co-workers with the Messiah &#8230; everywhere we go!</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME SOMETHING:</span><br />
Do you have a dualistic or messianic view of creation?</p>
<p><strong>â€”â€”</strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
<a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/04/25/what-is-a-minister-part-2/www.brianniece.com">www.brianniece.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>An Un-Truth I Learned From the Church &#8230; And What I&#8217;ve Un-learned About It</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A blogging friend of mine, Monte Asbury, chimed in on what he learned from the church that didn&#8217;t ring true. Thus, I&#8217;ll divulge what it started me thinking about. The church has taught me that to be the church means to be attractional. Authentic Christ-followers should, indeed, lead irresistible lives. But this is not the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A blogging friend of mine, <a href="http://masbury.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">Monte Asbury</a>, chimed in on what he <a href="http://masbury.wordpress.com/2007/08/03/what-i-learned-from-church-that-didnt-ring-true-and-what-i-have-been-learning-lately/" target="_blank">learned from the church that didn&#8217;t ring true</a>.  Thus, I&#8217;ll divulge what it started me thinking about.</p>
<p>The church has taught me that to be the church means to be attractional.  Authentic Christ-followers should, indeed, lead irresistible lives.  But this is not the idiom of attraction I learned.  Apparently, the church is most effective when it attracts not-yet believers to its gatherings.  I learned this from Vacation Bible School, Caravans, Bible Quizzing, intramural sports leagues, block parties, fall festivals, harvest celebrations, huge Easter celebrations that require hiring a string section, Easter pageants, revivals, missions weekends, back-to-school parties, special concerts, etc., etc., etc.</p>
<p>The thinking was that the more special the event, the more spectacular the goings on within the church building walls, the more readily not-yet believers would be awed into a pleasing relationship with Jesus.</p>
<p>I learned that a lot of effort goes into these special events.  I learned that if we build it, they will come.  I learned that Jesus was a great spectacle, a bastion of entertainment, a religious-colored festival.  I learned that Jesus was into crowds.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve discovered <span style="font-weight: bold">this is an </span>un<span style="font-weight: bold">-truth</span>.</p>
<p>As I follow the lectionary and read from my family scrapbook (Scripture), I&#8217;m convinced that Jesus &#8212; and thereby, the gospel &#8212; isn&#8217;t about an attractional event.</p>
<p>Instead <span style="font-weight: bold">the gospel is about an incarnational life</span>.</p>
<p>Jesus did occasionally preach / teach to great crowds.  Yet, when he plainly extolled the cost of discipleship, the crowds dwindled.  Near the end of his public ministry, he was the focus of crowds once again.  Yet, this time <span style="font-weight: bold">they killed him</span>.</p>
<p>Jesus&#8217; most effective ministry happened one-on-one and in small groups.   Jesus cared about individuals.</p>
<p>Jesus did not ask the thirsty to come to the great big water fountain at the synagogue.  Instead, he went to the well that thirsty people frequented and gave a woman living water.</p>
<p>Jesus didn&#8217;t have a big potluck in order to feed people&#8217;s bellies while feeding their souls.  Instead, he gathered with twelve around a small table and gave them his body and blood.</p>
<p>Jesus didn&#8217;t build magnificent buildings and point to them saying, &#8220;Here I have built my church.&#8221;  Instead, he called his disciple with the most leadership potential an adversary, then promised to build a community of hope on his shoulders.</p>
<p>Jesus didn&#8217;t teach every Sabbath.  Instead, he took his disciples with him through a field on the Sabbath, picked the grain for breakfast, and lived the gospel right in front of them.</p>
<p>How can the church I serve become incarnational?  It won&#8217;t happen with great programs.  Nor will it happen by meeting in the building we mistakenly call &#8220;the church&#8221; once or twice a week.</p>
<p>But it might happen by remembering that we are now Christ&#8217;s body.  It might happen by rehearsing what Jesus did.  It might happen by sacrificing all our false realities for a gospel that is lived and breathed in our communities.</p>
<p>Redemption begins when un-truths are un-learned.  Then our hearts of stone are replaced with living hearts.  With so much body-talk in Scripture &#8212; and a God who inhabited a body like mine &#8212; how can I call myself a Christ-follower if I&#8217;m not living a mission of incarnation all the time?</p>
<p>The beauty of this redeeming process is that the very church which taught me the un-truth is the church that shows me how to un-learn it and to live differently.  For all the church&#8217;s flaws, it&#8217;s still the church through which God reconciles the world.  I choose to be part of the reconciliation.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME SOMETHING:</span><br />
What&#8217;s an un-truth that you&#8217;ve learned?  And how are you un-learning it?</p>
<p><strong>â€”â€”</strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
<a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/04/25/what-is-a-minister-part-2/www.brianniece.com">www.brianniece.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>What Is a Minister? &#8211; Part 3</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Part 1 of this post, I discussed this question from the perspective of the religious person. In Part 2, I discussed this question from the perspective of &#8220;the world.&#8221; Now I&#8217;ll finally spell out my perspective &#8230; a perspective that has been honed that last few months (and will likely change with time as [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/04/23/what-is-a-minister-part-1/" target="_blank">Part 1</a> of this post, I discussed this question from the perspective of the religious person.   In <a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/04/25/what-is-a-minister-part-2/" target="_blank">Part 2</a>, I discussed this question from the perspective of &#8220;the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;ll finally spell out <span style="font-weight: bold">my perspective</span> &#8230; a perspective that has been honed that last few months (and will likely change with time as perspectives are want to do).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m reminded that Paul often wrote, &#8220;This is from me and not the Lord.&#8221;  So be warned, this is of Brian and not necessarily the Lord (but it certainly doesn&#8217;t run counter to what I understand of Christian history and Jesus&#8217; own ministry.)</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">A minister should have two primary purposes:</span></p>
<ul>
<li>to preach the gospel;</li>
<li>to equip others to be ministers;</li>
</ul>
<p>Let me flesh these two purposes out a bit.   <strong>Preaching the gospel</strong> is much more than what happens in a Sunday worship gathering.  At present, the <a href="http://www.brunswickgracecommunity.org" target="_blank"><strong>faith community where I serve</strong></a> holds two Sunday worship gatherings &#8230; each addresses a different learning and participatory style.  Consequently, the two sermons or teachings I give each Sunday are often delivered quite differently with different emphases (although the theme is always the same).</p>
<p>When I am done with the Sunday sermons, teachings, dialogues, experiences, I know full well I&#8217;m not done preaching for the week.  Yes, one aspect of preaching is being <span style="font-weight: bold">God&#8217;s mouthpiece</span>.  But an equally important part of preaching is <span style="font-weight: bold">the way I live my life</span>.  I must strive for Christ to shape me into a walking example of Paul&#8217;s admonition: &#8220;Follow my example as I follow Christ&#8217;s.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t say what Paul says, but rather I try to live in such a way that my example can be followed.  That means I am a <span style="font-weight: bold">servant, a giver, an encourager, a God-bearer</span>.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve been preaching this way long enough to know that I will have both good soil and bad soil in my sphere of influence.</p>
<p><strong>What is good soil?  </strong>Those persons who desire to be and experience Jesus above all else.</p>
<p><strong>What is bad soil?  </strong>Everyone else.</p>
<p><strong>Can bad soil become good soil? </strong> Absolutely &#8230; but the outcome is not my responsibility.  I simply spread the seed and leave the rest to the Spirit of God.   When I find good soil, I focus the majority of my energy, time, and resource in that good soil.</p>
<p>This will inevitably mean that I can&#8217;t spend much time with <span style="font-weight: bold">those not hungering to be disciples</span>.  I hear the groans now: &#8220;Isn&#8217;t a pastor supposed to treat all parishioners the same, after all?:  In a word: No!  A pastor who operates through this fruitless exercise <span style="font-weight: bold">may be more spiritual than even Jesus</span>.  Because Jesus invested his time and energy and resource in the good soil; not the bad.  The greatest waste of my life would be investing in bad soil.</p>
<p>Now about <span style="font-weight: bold">equipping others to be ministers</span>.  This is exactly what Jesus did.  He gathered twelve around him, invested his life in them, equipped them, and sent them out to ministry.  Sure, one proved faithless.  But through the rest of that rag-tag bunch, <span style="font-weight: bold">the world was turned upside down</span>.</p>
<p>What if I invest in equipping just twelve other people?  What if I disciple them to grow in grace?  What if I enable them to be ministers who preach the gospel by the way they live their lives and, in turn, they equip others to be ministers?  I think at least Coastal Georgia might be turned upside down!</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s what I believe my calling is:  <span style="font-weight: bold">preaching and equippping</span>.  I&#8217;m not called to:</p>
<ul>
<li>steady a sinking ship;</li>
<li>mediate petty, un-Christlike arguments;</li>
<li>be a quivering mass of availability;</li>
<li>lay down God&#8217;s call and vision for the selfish desires and wrong thinking of others;</li>
<li>marry and bury people;</li>
<li>run programs;</li>
<li>be the only dispenser of grace in a faith community;</li>
<li>etc., etc., etc. &#8230;</li>
</ul>
<p>Oh, I may do some of that &#8230; <span style="font-weight: bold">only in as much as it serves the core calling</span>.   And in that calling, I am fearless for I trust a God who consistently and without fail weaves beauty out of brokenness.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME:</span><br />
Are you preaching and equipping? If so, how?</p>
<p><strong>â€”â€”</strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
<a href="http://www.brianniece.com/2007/04/25/what-is-a-minister-part-2/www.brianniece.com">www.brianniece.com</a></strong></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t quite know why I do it to myself &#8230; When I can&#8217;t sleep, or the pressure of the work at hand causes me to retreat, or I go researching something which long ago I lost sight of and can&#8217;t for the life of me remember &#8230; That&#8217;s when I find myself doing it. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite know <strong>why I do it to myself</strong> &#8230;</p>
<p>When I can&#8217;t sleep, or the pressure of the work at hand causes me to retreat, or I go researching something which long ago I lost sight of and can&#8217;t for the life of me remember &#8230; <strong>That&#8217;s when I find myself doing it</strong>.</p>
<p>What?  I find myself <strong>reading</strong> the rants of various &#8220;Christian&#8221; perspectives from those with <a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/">fundamentalist leanings</a> or those with emergent-as-a-system leanings.  I find myself picking apart weak theology, or shallow ecclesiology, or emotionally clouded apologetics.</p>
<p>And then to <strong>decompress</strong> and <strong>recover</strong> the minutes wasted as I vicariously follow the intra-Christian absurdities that plague the reputation of Jesus-followers, I flip on my iTunes and here&#8217;s what plays: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lark_Ascending"><strong>&#8220;The Lark Ascending.&#8221;</strong></a></p>
<p>And my entire being stirs for <strong>authentic life lived in Christ</strong>.  Just now as the lark swirls higher into the clouds with my sense of reality girded under its wings, I look at my dim and empty living room, remembering <strong>what took place here</strong> 24 hours ago:</p>
<p>A small group of 10 <strong>friends</strong> &#8230; some we&#8217;d known a few months, some just a day &#8230; gathered for a time of food, fellowship, and simply sharing life.  We <strong>laughed</strong>, <strong>got to know each other</strong> better, <strong>shared space and time</strong> in a sacred way.  <strong>We lived the lark</strong> &#8230; we&#8217;re still living the lark.  </p>
<p>And the Spirit encourages me that <strong>life lived</strong> is the thing &#8230; the most important thing &#8230; the very thing for which God became a baby writhing in a cow&#8217;s food digs &#8230; the very reason God yielded the sacred life to a public execution &#8230; the very reason Christ took up his life again and breathed on the assembled his Spirit of grace and truth.</p>
<p><strong>SO TELL ME:</strong><br />
Are you living the life?  Or are you avoiding it?</p>
<p><strong>SO TELL ME SOMETHING ELSE:</strong><br />
If you are living the life &#8230; How?  Why?</p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
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		<title>Time Away is Never Time Away</title>
		<link>http://www.brianniece.com/2007/06/15/time-away-is-never-time-away/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[So I&#8217;ve been travelling for going on two weeks. As I see the light at the end of this on-the-go tunnel, I realize I will have been home exactly one night in a 21-day span. It&#8217;s been time away from home, from the routine (whatever that is), but not time away from thinking, praying, and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So I&#8217;ve been <strong>travelling for going on two weeks</strong>.  As I see the light at the end of this on-the-go tunnel, I realize I will have been home exactly one night in a 21-day span.  It&#8217;s been time away from home, from the routine (whatever that is), but not time away from <strong>thinking, praying, and being invited into deeper relationship with God</strong>.</p>
<p><strong>Ideas</strong> are brimming these days.  Before my traveling began, God was already tipping the dominoes on several different chains of events that could have significant <strong>impact </strong>for the kingdom in the earth.  Seeing what God is doing and searching to find my place in it leads me to several observations:</p>
<p>My frustration level is higher and God&#8217;s progress is diverted only <strong>when two things happen</strong>&#8211;</p>
<blockquote><p>I disobey the Lord&#8217;s prompting by not carrying through with what God is inpsiring in my heart; either because of fear or because the inspiration usually doesn&#8217;t fit within the usual parameters of &#8220;doing church&#8221; (though it spurs us on to <em>be the church</em>); OR</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>I attempt to control the beginnings of what God is doing for what I perceive to be the logical results.</p></blockquote>
<p>Guess what &#8230; God&#8217;s activity is <strong>most prevalent when I just jump </strong>into what God is already doing &#8230; when I call for those I serve to <strong>jump with me into God&#8217;s future</strong> &#8230; when I don&#8217;t waste time on &#8220;bad soil&#8221; that isn&#8217;t willing to l<strong>et go of comfort zones</strong> and step into the Spirit-led future of Christ.</p>
<p><strong>So, I&#8217;ve jumped!  I&#8217;m in 100%. </strong></p>
<p>Living this way as a Christ-follower in a Christian faith community is an <strong>organic </strong>way to be the Church.  It&#8217;s messy, somewhat chaotic, unpredictable &#8230; but alive and so much better than what the Church has encountered for 40+ years.</p>
<p>Imagine a faith community that actually <strong>means something</strong> to its neighborhood, its neighbors, its city and county.  Imagine people <strong>discovering </strong>how uniquely God has created them for just such a time as this.  Imagine a God that does not even see a box and calls us to be more than outside a box, but to be blind to any parameters as well.</p>
<p>Sounds like <strong>what was happening when Jesus, Peter, and Paul were alive</strong>.  Sounds <strong>ancient</strong>.  Sounds like the <strong>future</strong>, too.</p>
<p><strong>SO TELL  ME:</strong><br />
Are you ready to jump?  If so, what are you jumping into?</p>
<p><strong>â€”â€”</strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
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		<title>Doing Church and Being Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been having a great &#8220;chat&#8221; with my brother-in-law concerning the reality of ministry. He&#8217;s just graduated from seminary and has a head and a heart full of great learning. He&#8217;s eager to see what he can and can&#8217;t put into practice. I feel it&#8217;s my responsibility to be as honest with such a dialogue [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been having a great &#8220;chat&#8221; with my brother-in-law concerning the<strong> reality of ministry</strong>.  He&#8217;s just graduated from seminary and has a head and a heart full of great learning.  He&#8217;s eager to see what he <strong>can and can&#8217;t put into practice</strong>.</p>
<p>I feel it&#8217;s my responsibility to be as honest with such a dialogue as possible.  The great ideas we read in books regarding the paradigm shift of the Church from a Christendom mentality to a <strong>practiced communal faith and life</strong> are just that &#8212; things we read in books.</p>
<p>Oh, they are happening somewhere.  Someone has witnessed them.  But not usually the ones who read the books.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m discovering that Christian life &#8212; <strong>being a follower of Jesus in relationship with other followers</strong> &#8212; is far more improvised than I read it described it books.</p>
<p>To truly be a follower of Jesus <strong>places us at odds</strong> with lots of folks.  As a pastor who is a follower of Jesus, that sometimes means I&#8217;m even at odds with those who have been Christians longer than I&#8217;ve been alive.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not <strong>easy</strong>.  But it&#8217;s <strong>rewarding </strong>to know that we&#8217;re being obedient.  It&#8217;s <strong>rejuvenating </strong>to see God actually working.  It&#8217;s the stuff that someday could be the makings of a book.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;d rather <strong>live it</strong> than read it.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME:<br />
</span>Are you &#8220;in vocational ministry&#8221; and trying to &#8220;live it?&#8221;</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME SOMETHING ELSE:<br />
</span>What&#8217;s it like for you?<br />
<strong>â€”â€” </strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
<a href="http://www.brianniece.com/www.brianniece.com">www.brianniece.com</a></strong></p>
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		<title>What Is Emergent?  Who Is Emergent? &#8211; Part 1</title>
		<link>http://www.brianniece.com/2007/05/03/what-is-emergent-who-is-emergent-part-1/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 14:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian Niece</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I recently received an email from a fellow pastor posing some interesting questions. With his permission I&#8217;m using his initial questions and my reply for this post. I don&#8217;t attempt to answer everything &#8230; this is just to get the ball rolling. The Question: I am assuming that you have an emergent church outlook. If [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently received an email from a fellow pastor posing some interesting questions.  With his permission I&#8217;m using his initial questions and my reply for this post.  I don&#8217;t attempt to answer everything &#8230; this is just to get the ball rolling.</p>
<p style="font-weight: bold">The Question:</p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic">I am assuming that you have an emergent church outlook.  If this is a correct  assumption, then could you tell me what the goal of the Emergent Church is?   Specifically is there a reformation being sought or simply a separation from the  present Church?  </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">My Reply:</span></p>
<p style="font-style: italic">I wouldnâ€™t say I have an <span style="font-weight: bold">emergent movement outlook</span> toward the Church and ministry.  Yet, I am sympathetic to much in the emergent movement.</p>
<p style="font-style: italic">That said, there are <span style="font-weight: bold">separatists </span>in the movement.  I do not identify with the separatists.</p>
<p style="font-style: italic">I do believe the Church should always be in the <span style="font-weight: bold">reform process</span>.  Much in the emergent movement helps in that endeavor.  The difficulty with any spiritual movement is that it tends to become a <span style="font-weight: bold">religious institution</span>.  Look at the <span style="font-weight: bold">Protestant Reformation.</span>  A great move of the Spirit that resulted in more denominations than I can count or am even aware of â€¦ each with its own â€œmanualâ€? or governing policy.  As I read Luther, I am convinced thatâ€™s not what he had in mind when he <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther/95_Theses#The_95_Theses" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight: bold">nailed the 95 to the door</span></a>.</p>
<p style="font-style: italic">In our own movement (yet another â€œsplitâ€? in Protestantism that emerged about 100 years ago), some spiritual leaders wanted to identify with the disenfranchised in society.  50 years later there is an emphasis in the heartland and southeast on holiness defined by what an individual does not do.  Only in recent decades have we begun to remember and rehearse what began the movement titled <a href="http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_nazarene" target="_blank"><span style="font-weight: bold">â€œChurch of the Nazarene.â€?</span></a>  In so doing, we are beginning to<span style="font-weight: bold"> live a renewed and reformed faith</span>.</p>
<p><span style="font-style: italic">Any good â€œemergingâ€? perspective will make a half-turn toward <span style="font-weight: bold">orthodoxy </span>while keeping a steady pace toward the <span style="font-weight: bold">future</span>.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: bold">SO TELL ME:<br />
</span>Do you discern a difference between &#8220;emergent perspective&#8221; and &#8220;Emergent Church?&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>â€”â€” </strong></p>
<p><strong>Brian Niece<br />
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